BetaWiki:Community portal/Archive 11

Why is 98.235.155.81 a minimod?!

I saw Talk:Watermark and I saw a comment with User:Ryuzaki stating to User:98.235.155.81 to not minimod and 98.235.155.81 apparently doesn't know what the word means can somebody take a look at that comment? 2601:981:4401:1CC0:650A:17B5:DA34:A7EC 17:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

98.235.155.81 then said to 2 IP's that they shouldn't create a talk page war and yet he did the exact same thing what don't he understand? Can somebody please look at the comment and find out the investigations behind this situation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:981:4401:1cc0:650a:17b5:da34:a7ec (talk • contribs)

Ok sorry if I forgot to sign my comment but thanks for the correction. 2601:981:4401:1CC0:650A:17B5:DA34:A7EC 17:44, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Besides have any of you known 98.235.155.81? 2601:981:4401:1CC0:650A:17B5:DA34:A7EC 18:55, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Stop it I don't like this at all please don't talk about me more I will delete this message and there is nothing you can do about it so stop being a spammer! 98.235.155.81 11:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

If you mean you will delete the other guy's message, it's against the rules. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 11:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I really wasn't planning on doing that I was joking but really he should always be civil to other users please I want him to be blocked for longer he did worse than that. 98.235.155.81 11:35, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

yeah but I'm also tired of your new/old behavior. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 11:36, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

*sigh*, I think you don't need to act like that. Is being civil hard to you? I guess you should rest and that will help you calm yourself. If you calm yourself you'll have a good conversation with him. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 11:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I fell calm now and back to being by my new self just wondering what all the disruptive behavior is about right now I discovered this weird question posted by a user that he wanted to own the wiki yet he got a no I replied and it was weird but I'm not going to be like I was yesterday🤗. 98.235.155.81 11:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Purge all non-Windows related content

This is my version of a similar proposal that got canceled. Basically, non-Windows stuff on the wiki gets literally no activity besides one or two users. But, while the canceled proposal focused on all non-Windows content, I wanted to only focus on free-and-open source OSes (such as Linux, BSD, and Haiku), Android, non-preinstalled web browsers (such as Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Netscape) and other less important OSes. For free-and-open source OSes and Android, they have been moved to a dedicated wiki that focused on these OSes. For non-preinstalled web browsers, there are already Wikipedia pages for these browsers. I hope this should make BetaWiki a much cleaner site and live up to its name. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 05:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

EDIT: Some people said that I simply don't like the existence of these pages and they only care about them being notable. Most pages covering Linux are too short and hardly contain any notable information (and no, bugs don't count as notable). The new features and changes present in each distro version are also not covered properly and the pages only contain the image of the desktop or the home screen, which is not enough for a good article. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 02:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Support

1. Per above. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 14:13, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
2. I also think that Windows and Apple OS (mainly macOS and iOS/iPadOS), as well as DOS and OS/2 are enough for this wiki. I also remind you of The Purge™. I mean, why not killing off all GNU/Linux and BSD stuff with adding a note to the main page that we don't carry this since there are better wikis focusing on GNU/Linux and BSD. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk 06:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC) - Last edited 01:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

   For you, do the preinstalled apps on clean ISOs count? —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 08:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

   Do you mean Windows ISOs or Linux Live ones? - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk 08:53, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

   Both. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 10:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

   Honestly, I don't see the clue of what you mean. Windows installation media are based on Windows PE and don't have that much notable applications aside from Setup, Notepad, Comamnd Prompt, RegEdit and Task Manager, as well as Windows RE. And for Linux Live media, there is an better place anyway. 🤷‍♂️ - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 00:56, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

3. I think this is a good change for BetaWiki. I think that removing non-preinstalled web browsers, free and open-source operating systems and Android will at least clean up the wiki a little bit. Wikipedia already has good detailed pages for the non-preinstalled web browsers (like Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera, etc.) and a lot of the free and open-source OS content has already been migrated to the DistroWiki. WindowsGuy2021, 8:43, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
4. ✅ Support. This will help free up space for this wiki. 763004 (Talk • Sandbox) 19:43, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

   The wiki is not running out of space though. --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 19:33, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

5. Let's just focus on Windows, MacOS and its components. Also, can we AfD all of the Special:ShortPages pages —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 22:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

   Some of the pages in Special:ShortPages are actually important, so we're not going to delete them. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 23:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

   Don‘t forget OS/2 and DOS. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 08:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

6. HawHoo ^{(talk | contribs)} 19:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I am fine with the completely free and open source OS betas being moved to DistroWiki, but where do non-Windows proprietary systems go under this proposal? Obviously notable systems such as MS-DOS and MacOS would have nowhere to go if we followed through with this change, in addition to various smaller but still influential proprietary systems, which still deserve coverage in my mind. My opinion is that the site is called BetaWiki, not WindowsBetaWiki, and its function should reflect that. Computerfan0 (talk) 16:52, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

   The problem here is that 99% of the wiki's members focused on Windows, the most widely used OS in the world. The OSes you mentioned (excluding DOS, OS/2, and macOS) are also too niche and will fall into obscurity over time (this is exactly what happened to Linux content on BetaWiki). This is the complete opposite of BetaWiki's goal, which is to document popular and widely used OSes. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 03:56, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

2. Changed my mind, because I can't participate in DistroWiki. 763004 (Talk • Sandbox) 16:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

   Why? I already have done over 3600 edits and crated 60 pages there in only one month, compared to over 4100 edits here in three months. - - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 17:30, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

3. It's Betawiki, not Windows Betas wiki. This Wiki is about beta operating systems, not just beta versions of Windows. 204.122.110.179 16:53, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

   The thing is, BetaWiki has since changed to only focus on commercial operating systems (such as DOS, OS/2, Windows, and macOS). FOSS operating systems (such as Linux, BSD, and Haiku) are basically nonexistent and nobody (including you) is going to edit these articles since most of the users here focus on Windows. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 20:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

   Just because people mostly focus on Windows doesn't mean we should get rid of them. It's basically saying we should delete a page because it gets little page views. 2607:FB91:14D6:D6F6:4821:DDAA:2A2:7E9E 00:17, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

   Most of these pages just fell into obscurity and haven't been updated in a year or two. They're also an easy target for trolls and spammers since most people here (even admins) are not going to care about these pages. Linux and other miscellaneous OSes are basically irrelevant in the BetaWiki community and you should rethink about it. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 04:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

   Then we should have some sort of recent changes patrol. It seems that your only argument for this is just because like User:Sporb said, "I don't like it". 2607:FB91:14D6:D6F6:4CE9:8A07:9745:6E59 12:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

   There's not enough people who would actually monitor these pages and no, my argument for this is NOT "I don't like it", because an earlier proposal called The Purge™ existed and nobody said the argument for it was "I don't like it". You should look at the proposal to actually get the context of this. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 12:48, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

4. I find the reason of "they get one or two users" completely BS. Not all pages need to be edited every day or week. Just because this wiki is more focused on windows does not mean that every single page not related to windows should be nuked. To quote "This is the complete opposite of BetaWiki's goal, which is to document popular and widely used OSes". If this has been BetaWiki's goal, then the Linux pages would've been nuked a long time ago. Also, the entire thing reads like an advertisement for your wiki to me. Also, BetaWiki's tagline is "An open encyclopedia of software history", and Linux classifies under software, so why should it be deleted? This is not necessary for BetaWiki and would not affect it in any positive way. Windows should not be the focus of this wiki, and your reasoning reminds me of Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT. Sporb (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

   One thing I did not mention is that some of these pages haven't been updated in a year or two. They're also an easy target for trolls and spammers since most people here (even admins) are not going to care about these pages. About the my wiki thing, it's NOT my wiki, it's someone else's wiki which existed because of an earlier proposal which focused on the exact same thing. Unfortunately, you can't just change the focus of this wiki because it has been known as a Windows-centric wiki since its founding in 2013 and you'll need more people interested in non-Windows OSes in order to be able to do so. Most of the miscellaneous pages here are also low-quality, unlike the Windows pages. To sum up, Linux and other miscellaneous OSes are basically irrelevant in the BetaWiki community and you should rethink about it. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 04:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

   So what? This is why I said "Not all pages need to be edited every day or week.". As I said, not all pages need to be edited every day or week. There are people who are interested in the Linux pages (beside me), and these pages have existed for YEARS, and I have never seen any of them get vandalized. And the wiki has not been Windows-centric. Sure, thats what most of the community is dedicated to, but looking back at the first edit to the main page (beside the mediawiki software) it has had Linux listed. Linux has been a portion of the wiki for almost a decade now (the page on the kernel itself was created in September 2014) so why should we purge all the content related to it now? It's a dumb proposal, and wouldn't help BetaWiki in any way, as an encyclopedia dedicated to software history. Sporb (talk) 00:15, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

   Welp, an earlier proposal called The Purge™ existed and nobody said the argument for it was "I don't like it", which is kind of the point of my proposal. You should look at the proposal I mentioned to actually get the context of my proposal. Also, when I said vandalized I mean the Android pages, and of course you've never seen anyone vandalizing Linux pages because you never looked at the complete history of Linux pages in this wiki. I myself have been reverting vandalism since 2021 and sometimes they will vandalize lesser known pages because nobody cares about these pages. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 04:03, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

5. Some people might be interested in these pages, so it would have a negative effect to them. TechActivate 781 (talk) 09:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

   Problem is, these people were never going to edit these pages on this wiki because the wiki has been known as a Windows-centric wiki since its founding in 2013 and you'll need to invite more people interested in non-Windows OSes to the wiki. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 10:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

6. We don't care if the page has less edits and views, what matters is **that they are notable**. 37.231.218.129 02:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

   Welp, these pages are not notable as per the Guidelines. You might want to reconsider your choice before replying to me. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 02:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Regarding the recent announcement of version 22H2 being the last release of Windows 10...

Just today, I read that Microsoft will no longer release any future feature updates for Windows 10 as the operating system is scheduled for end-of-life on 14 October 2025 for the following editions of the operating system:

• Home
• Pro
• Pro Education
• Pro for Workstations
• Education
• Enterprise
• Enterprise multi-session

This means that Windows 10 version 22H2 which was released in October 2022 will be the last version of Windows 10.

Initially, I thought that Microsoft would release one more feature update for Windows 10 in late 2023 but nope, that is not happening. The EOL dates for Windows 10 version 22H2 which was originally 14 May 2024 for consumer editions and 13 May 2025 for enterprise editions have been updated to 14 October 2025 for the above applicable editions of Windows 10. Because of this, this is pretty much the perfect time for anyone still running outdated versions of Windows 10 (like 21H2, 21H1, 20H2, 2004 etc.) or old versions of Windows (like Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1) to update directly to version 22H2 as there will be no more feature updates for Windows 10.

However, existing LTSC, Server and IoT Enterprise versions of Windows 10 will still be supported until their respective end-of-life dates. The curtains are starting to draw on Windows 10. I am still wondering if they will offer ESU updates for Windows 10 like they did with Windows 7 given its large market share data and the fact that many PCs running Windows 10 do not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11.

Hopefully anyone who is still using Windows 10 will be fine as the EOL date is still two years away from now. In fact, my old Lenovo laptop which I have had since at least June or July of 2018 (The laptop itself was manufactured around May 2015) runs Windows 10 while my newer Alienware desktop PC runs Windows 11 which I have had since August 2022. My laptop does not meet the system requirements for Windows 11 and to me it is not really that big of a deal since I use my desktop PC for general things now and I am not using my laptop that much anyways since it is starting to run very slow. Although, I still use it occasionally, it has a lot of data on it that I would like to keep so, I probably may need to back up the stuff before it fails.

What are your thoughts and reactions to this announcement? I am just curious.

WindowsGuy2021 19:38, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

I do understand this. Since the earlier feature updates didn't have any new features, instead more being some sort of maintenance. I still have two devices, both running Windows 10, but I am optimistic that I can replace them with a machine having Windows 11 or put Linux on the newer one (provided that I replace the hard drive with a SSD, if I am able to). - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk 20:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

As of April 2023, Windows 10 21H2 was not outdated, because it was still supported, but 2 days ago it reached the end of support. 178.95.99.242 09:50, 15 June 2023 (UTC) 178.95.99.242

I’ve noticed for a while now…

Windows 11 ZN_Release doesn’t have the redesigned widget images in it, can someone use a vm and capture some images of that new widget look, then put it in the page? AEMthebetaguy - Hey! (talk) 21:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Why cant i minor edit

I see registered users can minor edit but me not because im nonregistered why cant anonymous no minor edit 37.39.149.26 08:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Registered users generally have more options than anonymous ones. Not only you can mark edits as minor, you can also change the wiki's theme, you can create pages and upload files (as long as you get the autoconfirmed status) and you can save pages in a watchlist. Though on Wikipedia, I was able to minor edit as an anon using the Wikipedia app. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 08:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC) - Last edited 08:39, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

-Reply to Bob2204: From what I heard anon used to upload image until the auto confirmed existed and disabled uplaoding and creating pages there also used to be a pending review notice while edit pages 37.39.149.26 08:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Pending review is used when moderation is activated. A moderator looks what you've edited, and if the edit is noteworthy enough, it will be suppressed. Registered users with autoconfirmed status are also automoderated, which means that their edits are automatically supressed, so they won't be moderated at all. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 09:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Citation template

Should we add a Citation template, like Wikipedia has? This would make adding them easier for some. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 08:47, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

<ref> already works well, and while {{reflist}} exists, some people don't know that it existed and continued using <references />. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 09:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Adding some section icons

I'm planning to make some Watercolor-styled section icons for more user-friendly experience, but currently I don't have time. Anyways, what's your opinion about this? Here's some concept:

• New features and changes: Light bulb
• Bugs and quirks: Exclamation mark
• Patches (reparing file, etc.): Wrench
• Trivia: Question mark
• Versions, documents and information (requirements, etc.): Information mark
• Build lists:
  • Windows 1.0 - 3.0: List icon
  • Post-Windows 3.0: Windows logo
    • Windows 3.1 to 98, 2000, ME: Windows 9x logo
    • Windows XP - 7: Windows 7 logo
    • Windows 8 - 10 (+its semesters): Windows 8 logo
    • Windows 11 (+its semesters): Windows 11 logo
  • MacOS: Apple logo
  • OS/2 and MS-DOS: Old computer icon

Be free to share your personal thoughts! Thanks (if oppose, please provide a reason)

—— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 13:11, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Support

#I would like the idea. ShamsBetas (talk) 13:17, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

1. I would like to support that change. —— This newly signed comment was added by Lazytown Sportacus (LazytownSpo4015) • Talk page • 03:45, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

1. This is just a waste of time and unnecessary. We're fine with having no section icons. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 13:25, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
2. ^^^ HawHoo ^{(talk | contribs)} 13:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
3. Changed my mind. ShamsBetas (talk) 13:35, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
4. This adds absolutely zero benefit. We're not doing this. --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 13:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
5. Not everything needs a pretty graphic Xeno (talk) 15:37, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
6. Section icons are not really needed. Besides, the wiki is already fine as it is. I also do not see any benefits from this either as we can already see and read such sections well enough with our very eyes clearly. Many wikis do not have section icons anyways so, this is simply just a waste of time and unnecessary. WindowsGuy2021 18:59, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
7. As a user of the Vector legacy theme, I am already fine with the current icons. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 22:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
8. This doesn't fit with the themes. And, how long and boring is it gonna take to do this? 763004 (Talk • Sandbox) 15:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Do I really need more edits for Extended Confirmed access?

If so, then how many edits? ShamsBetas (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

You'll need approximately 500 edits in order to obtain extended confirmed access. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 12:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

This means I'm so close, as I have 440 edits as of now. ShamsBetas (talk) 12:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

How do I get QEMU working?

So, I want to open that 8061, But I try to Open QEMU ARM, it dont Work. Any fixes? ShamsBetas (talk) 20:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm about to run the build, but i knew that it would be unstable. —— This newly signed comment was added by Lazytown Sportacus (LazytownSpo4015) • Talk page • 06:37, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Your issue here doesn't mention a specific problem (saying "it dont Work" won't help you). Also, this is not a forum, so you may ask this on another website. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Either ask in the BW Discord server or in the BetaArchive forums. idk if QEMU hosts a forum like VirtualBox does. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 00:25, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Already did. Also, are you in the server? ShamsBetas (talk) 00:26, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Nö, I even don't have Discord at all, though I am still thinking about joining the server. Also, I am afraid from doing things curse there, like I did earlier in other chats. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 00:37, 20 May 2023 (UTC) - Last edited 00:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

You can use Discord on computer in browser and you can entera username when clicking the Discord button. (You can on mobile too just with the help of Desktop mode)(Not trying to advertise its your opinion on joining or not) ShamsBetas (talk) 00:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! 🙂 - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 00:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, though I didn't do much on the server to prevent getting banned. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 04:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I no longer have access to the BetaWiki Discord Server, so yeah, no instructions on running build 8061 in QEMU are provided for me. —— This newly signed comment was added by Lazytown Sportacus (LazytownSpo4015) • Talk page • 02:21, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Erm

• 

That archive thingy is broken, can someone fix it? NitroGD 15:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Seems to be a MediaWiki bug. Shams1917 (talk) 15:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

For me, it doesn't seem to be broken. This might just be intentional design. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 23:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Looks off. Maybe if the number of archives excess 9 it will be like this. I guess it's a bug when coding the {{archives}} template —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 01:47, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

It's just intentional design. The box was supposed to be small, which caused an overflow when there are too many entries inside. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 04:44, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Can MediaWiki fix this. 763004 (Talk • Sandbox) 16:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

KB4534310 (Windows 7 outdated problem)

Recently on May 2023, there is an error that when a game launches as a file, which said "Your Windows 7 system is too outdated. Please install KB4534310." Did you guys know how to fix this? 2001:F90:40A0:991:2DCD:9612:9963:E857 03:11, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

This is not a forum where you can ask literally anything (even ones that are not related to BetaWiki itself). You just need to install the KB4534310 update (FYI: this is the last non-ESU update ever released for Windows 7), but a better solution would be to upgrade to Windows 10, because Windows 7 has lost support in 2020 (non-ESU) and 2023 (ESU). NaraInsider1694 (talk) 03:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

This doesn't mean all editions of Windows 7 lost ESU support. Windows Embedded 7 still gets ESU updates from Microsoft, as well a server counterpart of Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2378:101B:34BB:0:0:0:1 (talk • contribs)

This also doesn't mean they can move to a supported edition of Windows 7. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 07:17, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Note: Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows Embedded 7 ESU updates can be downloaded on client editions of Windows 7, see this, or this link. 93.72.29.12 14:21, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

This doesn't mean the patches are 100% safe, since they could break the system if used improperly. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 23:02, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Why there are a bunch of inactive accounts?

I saw the user creation log and a bunch of user shows up, but around 90% of them are inactive? Can someone explain why this happen? Also, some social media networks do not allow creating accounts to bypass restrictions.

—— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 15:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

When you are logged in with your account, you can modify the look and theme of the wiki, which isn't possible as an anon. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 15:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

and also put pages in watchlist 37.231.88.255 15:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

And change content models of a page. 763004 (Talk • Sandbox) 17:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Documenting number of file contains the said version

Basically, I'd like to find the tool to document the number of file contains the ... version. Just like documenting the number of files containing the earlier version number of Neptune. I'm trying to find how many files are marked with the buildtag 4018 (idx02.030430-2218) in build 4020 and later builds. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 14:48, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

we got the official iOS 17 Home Screen!

It’s here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_17 AEMthebetaguy - Hey! (talk) 01:36, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Idea for OS build infoboxes

Add a navigation arrow to go from one build of an OS to the one before or after it.

example: Windows NT 4.0 build 1165 <---- Windows NT 4.0 build 1166 ----> Windows NT 4.0 build 1175 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.122.110.179 (talk • contribs)

Been there, done that in like the very start of BetaWiki. We dropped it since it would require heavy updating for something so trivial. We are not going to add it back. BF10 (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

"Articles for creation" page

As the name said, I'd like to have an "Articles for creation" page to prevent not-notable pages from being created (like Wikipedia). This will help save people time because they'll not have to run an AfD/QD.

I could post this on the BetaWiki Discord server, but I'd like to post it here to grab all people opinion. If there's an oppose, please fill it with proper reason (no emojis) (soft wording only, no harassment)

—— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 03:46, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Not sure how would that prevent prevent articles that are not notable from being created, though? --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 09:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

yes in wikipedia the article stays if its declined until 6 months passed and no one edited the article 94.129.70.70 09:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

...I don't see how this even helps in the first place. - pivotman319 (📫) 09:33, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

1. This is just a waste of time for the admins and the good editors because we don't have enough active admins. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 04:32, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
2. dude this is not wikipedia 94.129.70.70 08:59, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
3. This is just Articles for deletion, but only for creating pages. So we can discuss a month about this page before creating, that's just wasting time. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 09:16, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

   on wikipedia you do not need to discuss for article creation they just either accept decline or reject 94.129.70.70 09:25, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

how should we celebrate beta wiki 10 anniversary

17:07, 24 June 2013‎ was when the main page was created so a few days and then the 10 anniversary is going to start but how should we celebrate it 94.129.70.70 09:49, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Good idea! Maybe by modifying the logo how it was the case when her majesty Queen Elizabeth II. died, they added a black funeral stripe to the logo. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 10:00, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Or add some colorful party paper bomb (idk what's it called) to the wiki logo —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by insomnia {{ talk • contribs • email me }} | 10:49, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

On the 10th anniversary of the main page, which is 11 days away, we should add the article which was created on June 24, 2013 to the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.95.99.242 (talk • contribs)

Probably a "10TH ANNIVERSARY"" text at the bottom of the logo. 763004 (Talk • Sandbox) 20:08, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Or better: "10^TH ANNIVERSARY". 😉 - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 20:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

5 DAYS AND BIRTHDAY WILL STRAT???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BC8:1202:DA24:0:0:0:1 (talk • contribs)

Yes, 5 days from the 10th anniversary of the Main Page. It is also 5 days before it has been 2 years after Windows 11 was announced. Maybe, Windows 11 or Windows 11 (original release) should be the featured article on the 10th anniversary of the Main Page. 178.95.99.242 14:59, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

EVERYONE, BETAWIKI'S 10th ANNIVERSARY STARTS TODAY 51.81.153.188 21:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

In about 9 hours from now. 178.95.99.242 08:41, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

EVERYONE, BETAWIKI'S 10th ANNIVERSARY STARTS TODAY

EVERYONE, BETAWIKI'S 10th ANNIVERSARY STARTS TODAY 51.81.153.188 21:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

It actually starts at 18:07 / 6:07 PM. See https://betawiki.net/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1 - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 22:34, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

time Zone issue ig 51.81.153.188 22:42, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Nope, UTC. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk - 02:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

I remember you. You're the one who replied to my comment on User talk:2.204.219.209 3 months ago when you were still fairly new to the wiki! When I warned him about the trouble he caused and that he triggered the 2601:981:4401:1CC0 range talk page war resulting in the IP being blocked at first indefinitely but then to 3 months wish the IP was blocked for longer for the poor edits he made to the wiki! 98.235.155.81 13:36, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

So you were back to your old behavior of spamming discussion pages and using them as a message board for absolutely no reason. Weird. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 13:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Anniversaries are celebrated for the entire day. But glad to have been around for those 10 years! I made my first edit on 29 June on my old account https://betawiki.net/index.php?title=Windows_95_build_81&oldid=92 . As a side note, shouldn't this be moved to the community portal? Xeno (talk) 22:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

I also done it Here for more Peole to See It 51.81.153.188 22:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Today is also the 2nd anniversary after Windows 11 was announced. Happy 10th anniversary to the Main Page of Betawiki and happy 2nd anniversary of Windows 11's announcement. Maybe Windows 11 should be the today's featured article. October 5, 2023, which is 3 months and 11 days away will mark the 2nd anniversary after the official release of Windows 11. The Main Page was created today by MediaWiki default at 17:07.

Wait how did you know that? 2601:981:4401:1CC0:650A:17B5:DA34:A7EC 19:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

178.95.99.242 08:27, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

About the featured article, it only changes every month and you can't just change the featured article of the current month. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

How did you know that? I just congratulated JaGoTu. 98.235.155.81 13:36, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

You literally entered two edit summaries saying "unnecessary" or something and "it doesn't work like that". Look at the page history before repeating the same mistake. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 13:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)