BetaWiki:Articles for deletion

OpenOffice[edit source]

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Deleted on 3 May 2023. BF10 (talk) 17:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


I think that OpenOffice is outside of BetaWiki's scope. There are way better wiks focusing in open-source software like this. You might now point out to an image of OpenOffice I uploaded a few weeks ago. And welp, this was because the previous image from RixolinoVM was in JPEG, in other words: Maintenance.

OT: OpenOffice is really taking up hard disk space, so if you decide to delete this page, I don't need to take images of Writer, Impress, etc., so I can eliminate OpenOffice from my computer. 😬 This should not be counted as a reason for deleting this page. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 16:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

And that's why I use Microsoft Office. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }}

| 08:47, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

I am using both MS Office and LibreOffice. And as the latter uses the same executable names as OpenOffice, and because both are so much better than OpenOffice, I want to get rid of this. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 08:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Btw, do you interested in the new AI for MS Office? —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }} | 10:07, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
I am actually not much interested in AI at all. The only AI thing I have ever used was the new Bing search. I am also using MS Office and LibreOffice not much. The only apps I run on my system are mainly web browsers and VM software. But I will see what this can get for me. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 10:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
I use MS Office because it's very easy to use. It is also light if you were able to configure app exclusions. The only thing I don't like is how much it uses system resources (my computer usually runs up to 72°C, maximum is 85°C when gaming) —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }} | 10:18, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
The best is to run Office as the only app. Are there any system requirements for MS365 apps? Nevermind. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 10:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 17:04, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
  2. HawHoo (talk | contribs) 17:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
  3. A small cleanup of the wiki to remove pages like this would be nice. Xeno (talk) 17:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
  4. BF10 (talk) 18:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
  5. The deletion should also include web browsers and lesser-known Linux distros. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 23:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
  6. We only make articles about popular softwares and OSes. OpenOffice isn't popular, so it can be deleted. Also, Special:ShortPages pages goes first. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }} | 04:42, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  7. Tried to QD Browser Pages At Home, Admins Didnt accept my edits. Attempted To AFD Them At Home, Ditto.141.11.87.14 00:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  8. Shams1917 (talk) 23:54, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
  9. Zenphia1 (talk) 11:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose[edit source]

Google Chrome, MozillaFirefox, NCSA Mosaic, Opera, And Netscape[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Deleted on 13 May 2023. BF10 (talk) 15:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


Third Attempt Because First Was Rejected And Second Had Mistakes, And You Can Reject Second But Please, For The Love Of God Accept This Edit Instead Of Second. I Say That These Pages Should Be Deleted Because They Are Ambiguously Beyond BetaWiki Scope BetaWiki Scope Is Betas And OSes While These Are Completely Out The Scope. Accept This Edit Please. 141.11.87.14 00:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. 141.11.87.14 00:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  2. Note: Safari should not be deleted because it's part of macOS and iOS. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 07:27, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  3. A look at the galleries of the Chrome and Firefox pages should be enough. Thanks for nothing, Caveria! - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 08:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  4. Chrome, Firefox, and Safari are debatable, considering those are actually preinstalled on certain operating systems. As for Mosaic, Netscape, and Opera, those could definitely be removed. HawHoo (talk | contribs) 14:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
    Chrome is preinstalled on ChromeOS and Firefox is preinstalled on most Linux distros, however they are not notable, so they could also be removed. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 14:11, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
    Forgot That Safari Is Part Of Apple Devices And I Can Remember Netscape Being Preinstalled On OS/2 Warp Or Some Other System Of OS/2 And Seen Google Chrome Preinstalled On Android. Removed Safari And Added Opera. Also Thank You Ryuzaki For Merging My Edits. I Was hoping Too Much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.11.87.7 (talkcontribs)
  5. This deletion is going to be massive like very massive. I don't care if I uploaded images for Chrome but this would still clean the wiki very more because of the images. Shams1917 (talk) 23:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
  6. Off to upload these pages to web.archive.org just in case I need them later. Zenphia1 (talk) 11:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose[edit source]

Non-Windows and MacOS related content in Special:ShortPages[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Use the Community portal for abstract proposals like this. Only concrete proposals should be discussed here. --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 23:02, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


Basically, most of the short pages are non-Windows and MacOS related. These pages are also low-quality (didn't have an infobox at all) so these pages are also low-quality. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }}

| 22:53, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

To be specific, is this including stuff like OS/2 and the like? If yes, I honestly won't support this. BF10 (talk) 17:34, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
No. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }} | 21:26, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. Per above. —— Preceding SIGNED comment added by A150.png Someone200 {{Ic fluent person 12 filled.svg talk Ic fluent list 20 filled.svg contribs Ic fluent mail 20 filled.svg email me }} | 22:53, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  2. Just compare the OpenIndiana page of BetaWiki with the one on DistroWiki. That's all I can say. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 23:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  3. All we need here is Windows versions, internet explorer, safari, MacOS versions, debian/slackware (notable), and virtualization software. -- 17LIFERS (talk) 06:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
    Debian and Slackware are not notable and have been moved to DistroWiki, a dedicated wiki that focused on Linux and Unix-like OSes, so they could also be deleted. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 07:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
    Says who? Both Debian and Slackware are established distributions. I smell a conflict of interests... --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 23:19, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
    From a canceled Community portal proposal: "That does seem like a good compromise to me, although personally I would leave all open source software out, so that means all Linux distros." - Ryuzaki. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 23:35, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Oppose[edit source]

Windows 8 build 8158 and Windows 8 build 8432 (winmain)[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Build 8432 will be deleted; build 8158 will be kept. BF10 (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


These builds have no source whatsoever. which means they are not notable. 156.201.216.173 02:03, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

It's easy to find the original sources...--BlueRain (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 09:10, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
  2. 156.201.216.173 09:11, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
  3. Zenphia1 (talk) 11:52, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
  4. I agree with 8432 winmain's deletion, but not 8158's. Windows logo (1985).svg MyFaceNeverWhenTALK.EXE 22:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
    Yeah same thing here I nominated these for deletion before User:BlueRain saved 8158 by added an almost trusted Chinese source called pcbeta Why I am commenting from different ip is because my ip changes everytime 102.46.158.75 01:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
    What IP address did you use normally? - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 18:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
    It was some sort of 41 ip and then when I edit 8 build 8331 fbl loc page to say that this build was tested for localization system and different languages and adding according to fbl loc branch because the branch meant that it used a different ip I don't know why whatismyipaddress reports it as static because dynamic ones change everytime and static don't change. Hope you understand Bob2204. 197.41.57.84 01:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
  5. I agree to the previous supporters, but only if there is really no source for 8432. The other thing is that the original uploader LarryTN7722 (or Mr. „Added a link.“) is no longer active since April 2021, so it is hard to contact him to ask from where he sourced this image. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk 18:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
    But Larry's Contributions say February 12 2023.... 197.41.57.84 01:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
    I don‘t mean his overall contribs. Only the contribs to the user picture. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk - 07:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
    Why would user page edits be a relevant indicator of activity, rather than overall contributions? Some people don't edit their page three times a day. --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 19:49, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose[edit source]

  1. Build 8158 due to already now having a source. BF10 (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

File:Professional-mockup.png[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Rejected; page will be kept. BF10 (talk) 14:44, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


Is there any trustworthy source (a beta collector account at Twitter isnt) for this image used in the gallery of Watercolor? Xyz (talk) 08:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

When you have a solid proof that it's not trustworthy, show it in advance to mark anything as Deleted. Term24 (talk) 08:31, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

Oppose[edit source]

  1. BetaCollector is trustworthy since they are known to possess various internal Microsoft stuff. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 09:50, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
  2. He only pulls stuff out of his collection sourced directly from Microsoft and those tied with the company, including things that are heavily protected under NDA licenses. The information that he provides is as concrete as it gets. Blue Horizon (talk) 09:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
  3. If you know who BetaCollector is, you wouldn't have to post an AfD request here. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk - 10:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
  4. Why put an AFD when the QD template exists? Also BetaCollector is trusted. Easy Oppose. Windows logo (2012).svgShams1917 (talk) 12:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
    because QD is reserved only for certain scenarios when there is no doubt a page should be gone --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 19:45, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

BetaArchive and UX.Unleaked[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


The "not a free webhost" rule only applies to userpages; in addition, the subjects in question have significant weight in that they are key players to the historical integrity of pre-release Windows builds. Closing this as invalid under the assumption that this is a possible troll attempt. - pivotman319 (📫) 14:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


why the hell are those two articles sitting here for a long time although they are not notable, those two articles on why I am AFDing them is because they break this rule:BetaWiki is not a free web host. Also why the hell would an admin make the UX.Unleaked article better? Why admin? Just why?

217.138.197.146 00:23, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't see any rule broken. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk - 00:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. Literally what I said. 217.138.197.146 00:23, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Oppose[edit source]

  1. Both websites are important in the beta scene and these articles let the user understand how builds are mentioned and leaked. That's why admins keep this page for good reasons. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk - 00:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
  2. ^^^ NaraInsider1694 (talk) 01:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Windows 8 build 7976[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Rejected; page will be kept. BF10 (talk) 14:47, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


This build likely seems to be fake, because the taskbar shows an active Internet Explorer window opened. However, there is no active IE window shown on the desktop. If it would've been minimized, the taskbar button wouldn't glow that much. Compare Media:Windows8-7976.png and Media:7973.fbl core1 kernel npc-DefaultTheme.png, the latter shows how a taskbar button glows if the window is minimized. - Windows logo (2003).svg Bob2204 Arrow.png Click here to begin. Or here. Arrow2.png Talk - 15:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

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  1. Any application can do that. Sometimes they don't focus themselves properly; just because a bug happens doesn't mean a build is automatically fake. - pivotman319 (📫) 16:30, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
  2. ^^^ NaraInsider1694 (talk) 20:07, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Windows 11 build 22011[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Deleted by Pivotman319 on 27 August 2023. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 11:53, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


Some IP said that the build is a typo, but I'm not sure about that claim. Let me know if this supposed typo is true. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 11:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

Oppose[edit source]

Draft:Windows 1.0 1983 demos[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Deleted on 26 November 2023. BF10 (talk) 17:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


This draft has been largely abandoned since 2022 and seems to mostly be nothing more than a mere split of several early Windows 1.0 pages which already have their own pages and aren't non-notable enough to require a merge. BF10 (talk) 22:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. The InfoWorld 1983-11-21 build already has a page. Windows logo (2006).svg 763004 (TalkSandbox) 14:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Oppose[edit source]

Windows XP build 2600.1151[edit source]

Closed "Article for deletion" discussion


Deleted on 26 February 2024. BF10 (talk) 13:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


The revision of this build does not match the SP2 mainline compilation timestamp, and the desktop watermark also says "Service Pack 1", so this version is actually an SP1 QFE version rather than an SP2 beta version, and should not be recorded. -BlueRain (talk) 01:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Support[edit source]

  1. Degrader (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. 2001:F90:6022:6F83:7970:BA56:3249:4C14 03:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC) (offtopic - never trust buildtags)

Oppose[edit source]