Talk:Windows 7

Codenames

Windows 7's codename is Blackcomb and Vienna. Even in the List of Microsoft codenames in Wikipedia also says that Windows 7's formerly codenames is Blackcomb and Vienna. --Yue Ling (talk) 09:15, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Erm, no. According to the Windows "Blackcomb" page, Windows 7 had little to nothing in common with the original ideology. AlphaBeta also removed these codenames from the Microsoft Windows page. Don't rely on Wikipedia. BF10 (talk) 13:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

But Blackcomb was renamed to Vienna in 2006 and eventually Windows 7 in 2007... --Yue Ling (talk) 13:05, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Thats what you say. I say that Windows Longhorn renamed to Vienna renamed to Blackcomb renamed to 7 renamed to 6 renamed to Vista. --LilShootDawg (talk) 15:16, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

(See BF10's thread) There isnt much information about the codename 'Vienna' known to exist. Noserver (talk) 23:24, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Possible new build ep. 1

Hey, I think I found evidence of a possible build 7007. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-rprn/e81cbc09-ab05-4a32-ae4a-8ec57b436c43 Diyamund (talk) 22:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

According to this link, there's a reference to Windows 2000 build 1382 in same page. But the page to this build was deleted 10 days ago. I doubt that this build will be documented on wiki. XPSrv (talk) 12:24, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Possible new build ep. 2

I founded my builds. So i have a build call 7601.24384.amd64fre.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.190220-1800 in a samsung computer and my mom's computer. 2001:f90:40c0:a072:1e7:d292:af5:cf60 15:00, 28 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)

I'm not sure, but there's a high chance that it's a RTM/SP1 update build. And those aren't allowed here unless there's a valid reason (having a timebomb or some notable changes over original build) for that. XPSrv (talk) 12:18, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

So what do win7sp1_ldr_escrow mean? 2001:f90:40c0:a072:3944:c482:71be:47de 09:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC+8)

Later updates for Windows 7 came from the win7sp1_ldr_escrow branch. Offtopic: One of the last non-ESU updates for Windows 7 was built on 2020-01-02, 12 days before Windows 7's end of support date. The build tag for that update is 7601.24545.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.200102-1707. Nara Insider (talk) 06:29, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Possible new build ep. 3

There is a build call 7600.16385.win7_gdr_embedded_dev_ctp2.091030-1800 that was referenced along Windows 8 build 7680. What do win7_gdr_embedded_dev_ctp2 branch mean?

• Update: I also founded 7600.16385.win7_gdr_embedded_dev.091024-0100.
• Update 2: I founded 7600.16385.win7_gdr_embedded_dev.100301-1900 and 7600.16385.win7_gdr_embedded_dev.100225-1900. 2001:F90:40C0:A072:5C8A:A641:8613:10BD 23:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Windows Embedded 7. It's in the name... --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 11:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

But the build number was 7600. 2001:F90:40C0:A072:5C8A:A641:8613:10BD 03:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Windows 7 ESU EOL is tomorrow.

It is very crazy that all support for Windows 7 will be coming to a close after tomorrow. The Extended Security Updates offering for Windows 7 was announced by Microsoft in September 2018 in order to provide a last resort option for business that were still in the process of upgrading their systems to newer versions of Windows. The ESU program for Windows 7 will now be coming to an end starting tomorrow after Microsoft issues the last security patches for Windows 7 ESU.

However, Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2 did have their ESU support periods extended in late 2021 for Azure customers. Support for those versions will end on 9 January 2024 which is one year from now.

Windows 7 was a really great OS for its time. It was a massive improvement over its poorly-received predecessor, Windows Vista. It had better performance espically on older hardware and it made many good improvements to the user experience such as the superbar which allows direct pinning of programs on the taskbar for quick access, visual improvements to the Windows Aero theme and more.

Although free support for Windows 7 already ended for most users on 14 January 2020, Windows 7 was still supported although through the paid ESU program meaning that Microsoft was still releasing security patches for Windows 7 which were only for those that paid for the ESU program.

Tomorrow, Windows 7 will finally be laid to rest after 13 years since its release in October 2009. Windows 7 will still be remembered as one of the best versions of Microsoft Windows next to Windows XP.

R.I.P Windows 7 (22 October 2009- 10 January 2023)

WindowsGuy2021, 1:55, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Along with Windows 8.1 :( 763004 ^{(💬 T | ⏳ S)} 20:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

It's not time to say goodbye to Windows 7 ESU and Windows 8.1 yet. A server counterpart of Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2 is going to get ESU support until 2026, just like Windows Server 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.111.98 (talk • contribs)

Service Pack

NaraInsider1694, I've seen you reverted one of my recent edits on Windows 7 article. You are saying that Windows 8.1 is NOT a service pack. But the article about Windows 8.1 says that Microsoft's traditional support policy treats Windows 8.1 as a service pack. For now I removed this in Windows 8.1 article. What do you think? Should the Windows 8.1 article say that it was treated as a service pack or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.111.98 (talk • contribs)

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-81 - pivotman319 (📫) 08:43, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Does Windows 8.1 look like a service pack comparable to the ones released for Windows 7 or Windows Vista? Yes, Microsoft lifecycle policy treated Windows 8.1 similarly to a Service Pack as the original Windows 8 release went out of support shortly after 8.1 shipped, but that does not make it an actual Service Pack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryuzaki (talk • contribs)

It's me, NaraInsider1694. You didn't know that Windows 8.1 has a lot of kernel, API, and platform changes which makes it different from a normal service pack. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 09:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I think we have to remove that Windows 8.1 is a service pack. I'm going to remove this in Windows 8.1 article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.111.98 (talk • contribs)

But it doesn't say that it's a service pack. The wording is important --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 10:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Microsoft treated Windows 8.1 as as a Service Pack, although the actual OS itself is not necessarily a Service Pack. - pivotman319 (📫) 11:21, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

The fact that Win 8.1 basebrd is Windows 8 and doesn't .1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.201.155.190 (talk • contribs)

The easiest reason why Windows 8.1 is not a SP, is that Windows 8.1 is in fact a completely new Windows version from Windows 8, just like Windows 8 from Windows 7. This can be easily seen at the NT kernel version: Windows 8.1 has 6.3, Windows 8 has 6.2, Windows 7 (even with SP1) has 6.1. And don't forget to sign your comments with ~~~~. - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk 12:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

The reason I'm saying that Windows 8.1 is a Service Pack is because of support reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.111.98 (talk • contribs)

Still, it's NOT a service pack. The kernel version is 6.3 (Windows 8 is 6.2, and Windows 7 (even with SP1) is 6.1), and winver doesn't mention an installed service pack. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 14:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

If you're saying that Windows 8.1 is not a service pack, we should say on Windows 8.1 article that it was an Update (not a service pack). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.111.98 (talk • contribs)

You just don't want to learn your lessons... - Bob2204 Click here to begin. Or here. Talk 16:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

This is incorrect, Bob2204. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.111.98 (talk • contribs)

Not sure how hard it is to comprehend this. Support policy is just a piece of paper and is completely irrelevant in deciding whether something is a Service Pack or not. Windows 8.1 is not a Service Pack, but support policy treats it similarly to one. That alone does not make it one. Discussion is over. --Ryuzaki (talk | contribs) 18:50, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Directly upgrade from Windows XP

https://betawiki.net/index.php?title=Windows_7&oldid=281323

When I tried the "upgrade" option in Windows XP, it shows "You can’t directly upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7. Go online to learn how to use Windows Easy Transfer to install Windows 7 and keep your files and settings." Lixivite (talk) 09:52, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry, they're not doing research before making that edit. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm doing research, but I only said that the installer will work on Windows XP, even through upgrade option won't work. 95.134.111.155 13:35, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Welp, your confusing English makes it look like you're saying that directly upgrading from XP is supported and works, even though that isn't the case. NaraInsider1694 (talk) 13:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I mean that it's possible to upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7, just Microsoft says that for no reason. 95.134.111.155 16:48, 13 July 2023 (UTC)