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== Unblock request ==<br />
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Can someone unbock Ilyes before 5 April else his IP adress will violate the guidelines - 197.202.123.182<br />
:That is a great way to achieve the exact opposite of what you're asking for. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 17:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
::You have two options: 1. Unblock me before 5th April or 2. Leave this site forever - 197.202.123.182<br />
:::LLyes wanna be on a team?? (Im windows 2005 :D :) :I :p) [[User:LLyEs 2005|LLyEs 2005]] ([[User talk:LLyEs 2005|talk]]) 20:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC) (beeschurger1<br />
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== Please make me automoderated ==<br />
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Please make me automoderated. [[User:XPBeta|XPBeta]] ([[User talk:XPBeta|talk]]) 01:52, 23 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:First, automoderated hasn't been relevant in years. Second, you basically made 10 spammy edits to the Sandbox to satisfy the autoconfirmed criterion and then immediately asked for automoderated, so I don't know what you expect me to do. You have zero editing history behind you, so that's a big nope. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 03:16, 23 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Please unblock XPBeta ==<br />
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He did nothing wrong, but it is a false positive. Please unblock him. I am using a VPN to post this, cause I don't wait my account to be unblocked. F**k you the abuse filter. [[Special:Contributions/163.172.181.151|163.172.181.151]] 02:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:That's block evasion, and would probably get you blocked again. [[Special:Contributions/36.231.29.242|36.231.29.242]] 04:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete this account ==<br />
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Hi, can administrators delete the user ''Ilyes'' as I no longer need it since I will not do edit conflicts with an IP/MAC adress. Thanks - 105.105.71.212<br />
:No, we can't delete accounts. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 18:11, 27 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== SVGs should save as PNGs ==<br />
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SVGs save as SVGs. Shouldn't they be PNGs? If there's any way to fix this, please do.<br />
: Why don't you save them as .PNG then? [[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) 14:21, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:: To clarify, all the other MediaWiki-based wikis have SVGs in some sort of PNG-based format. It doesn't seem to happen here.<br />
::: Yes, that is very much intentional. SVG is supported by any reasonably modern browser, so there is no reason to convert it to PNG in 2022. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 14:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No? SVG files can't be saved as PNGs. If you're talking about a way to export it as a PNG, then just save the thumbnails that are generated from the SVG. There are also online tools that can turn an SVG into a PNG. [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 14:06, 17 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Page restore ==<br />
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Could be [[:Category:Windows 10 Fall Creators Update builds]] restored? Thanks. [[User:ToMi|ToMi]] ([[User talk:ToMi|talk]]) 14:00, 18 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:It was undeleted. [[Special:Contributions/105.111.109.145|105.111.109.145]] 15:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:We say restored. [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:d963:d209:5f65:74d9|2001:f90:40c0:a072:d963:d209:5f65:74d9]] 19:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
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== Impolite editor:Starfrost ==<br />
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The user unreasonably deleted my user page, if he is one of the administrators, should give a reasonable reason to delete this page. Otherwise, please give a reasonable ban or punishment according to the behavior of this userβ[[User:MakiAdmin|MakiAdmin]] ([[User talk:MakiAdmin|talk]]) 06:35, 25 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Hey, sorry about that. We recently performed a clean-up within the Main: and User: namespaces and removed any pages that didn't appear to provide any useful content, fell under the WNR rule, were created by blocked users or were entirely unneeded redirects. I've restored all revisions of your user page and reverted it to the last revision made before yours was accidentally removed from the User: namespace. Again, I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience the staff team caused. Have a great day! - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 08:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Change my username please (again) ==<br />
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Hey, can any admin please change my username from "Bubblebeam" to "Uncle Captain"? Because I am starting to not like my current one anymore. [[User:Bubblebeam|Uncle Captain]] ([[User talk:Bubblebeam|talk]]) 01:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:According to Ryu (Me ) on the Discord server. You'll be able to change your name in Mid-september. The rules changed to one rename per year. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 01:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
::That's ok, I can wait until 3 September 2022. :) [[User:Bubblebeam|Uncle Captain]] ([[User talk:Bubblebeam|talk]]) 01:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::@Xeno But still, the guidelines still say 6 months. [[User:Bubblebeam|Uncle Captain]] ([[User talk:Bubblebeam|talk]]) 02:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::It actually says "If your account is at least 6 months old and you haven't already done so ''less than a year ago''". So yeah, sorry. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 02:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to change my username ==<br />
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Sorry I entered the wrong username when I registered, so I need to change my username to "toorich" if nobody used this username. --[[User:Toorich|εδΊ¬]] ([[User talk:Toorich|talk]]) 15:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:You have been renamed. [[Special:Contributions/105.111.109.145|105.111.109.145]] 15:53, 7 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Your time was 15:53 7 may 2022 UTC. And these 5 days already renamed. (...) [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 07:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Restore a page ==<br />
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Could [[Windows 10 build 10240.16425]] be restored?<br />
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I have an issue with the deletion of this article. Let me explain.<br />
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According to gus33000 (https://discord.com/channels/305415513503432705/305415513503432705/792657232511893514), this build is a full build rather than a cumulative update.<br />
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Besides, I checked the update (windows10.0-kb3081436-x64_4f2d2481f0f3364635a185a20605aa8190c6c951.msu) mentioned in the QD reason. As said in [[Talk:Windows_10_build_10240.16425β|the talk page]], after applying the update the version string is 10.0.10240.'''16430''', and only very few files have version number 10240.16425.<br />
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Based on the above information, I don't think this deletion is completely reasonable and request to restore this page.<br />
--[[User:BlueRain|BlueRain]] ([[User talk:BlueRain|talk]]) 06:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Restored. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 07:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
== Block users ==<br />
=== [[User:Sarma Abhirrasama|Sarma Abhirrasama]] (11 May 2022) ===<br />
This user was say [[Windows Vista build 5734]] was leaked. Before, that build was unconfirmed, this can be blocked. (?) [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:5189:e019:ae56:b207|2001:f90:40c0:a072:5189:e019:ae56:b207]] 17:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
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=== 47.40.250.35 (archive, broken copy) ===<br />
He is writing on the [[iPhone OS 1]] page for a fake 1C26 build. I doesn't know if he was blocked. Please block him. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 07:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Nobody messaged. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 07:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== 174.26.248.112 (19 June 2022) ===<br />
He is vandalism in some pages.<br />
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*First edit - WinVOS: [[Special:MobileDiff/218321|218321]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218323|218323]])<br />
*Second edit - Windows Preinstallion Environment: [[Special:MobileDiff/218324|218324]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218328|218328]])<br />
*Third edit - Windows XP Starter Edition: [[Special:MobileDiff/218327|218327]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218329|218329]])<br />
*Fourth edit - Google Chrome (edit vandalism 1): [[Special:MobileDiff/218330|218330]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218331|218331]])<br />
*5th edit - Google Chrome (edit vandalism 2): [[Special:MobileDiff/218332|218332]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218334|218334]])<br />
*6th edit - iOS 16 build 20A5283p: [[Special:MobileDiff/218336|218336]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218339|218339]])<br />
*7th edit - Windows XP build 2441: [[Special:MobileDiff/218338|218338]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218341|218341]])<br />
*8th edit - Windows 11 build 22621 (ni_release): [[Special:MobileDiff/218340|218340]] (revert on [[Special:MobileDiff/218354|218354]])<br />
*9th edit - Fedora 17 Beta: [[Special:MobileDiff/218343|218343]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218347|218347]], then revert back from [[Special:MobileDiff/218368|218368]])<br />
*10th edit - Android 4.1.1: [[Special:MobileDiff/218346|218346]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218349|218349]])<br />
*11st edit - File Explorer: [[Special:MobileDiff/218355|218355]] (reverted on [[Special:MobileDiff/218356|218356]])<br />
Please block him as 11 vandalism edits. Wikipedia will block users on 3 revert edits.[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 07:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Block Jack Whiskers ==<br />
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He is writing on the Win98 page sth about Rugrats, Toys R' Us <sup>(rip)</sup>, Looney Tunes and Paramount. Before he continues with more vandalism, you should rather block him. - [[Special:Contributions/2.207.30.181|<bdi>2.207.30.181</bdi>]] <sup>([[User talk:2.207.30.181|talk]])</sup> 23:36, 14 May 2022<br />
: They have been banned. I think it's the most hilarious vandalism ever. But, around us, there may be some accounts that is ready to vandalise everytime. I hope the admins will keep track of all pages to see what is odd. [[User:Someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 02:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== The abuse filter blocks me from editing the Debian page! ==<br />
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I only wanted to add a new row for the version history wikitable, where the long-term support dates shall be listed, but the abuse filter blocks me from doing that due to "adding repetitive content". - [[Special:Contributions/2.204.223.225|2.204.223.225]] <sup>([[User talk:2.204.223.225|talk]])</sup> 12:24, 15 May 2022<br />
:There's something wrong with that edit filter. Looking into it. [[User:Starfrost|Starfrost]] ([[User talk:Starfrost|talk]]) 12:29, 15 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Can you make me a sandbox? ==<br />
I wanna use it for testing purposes & the page should be User:184.101.108.44/Sandbox with the sandbox template saying at the top "welcome to your new sandbox 184.101.108.44! please do edits that are to your own quality"- (184.101.108.44)<br />
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:lol [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7]] 05:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::why lol? it could be good or bad and every 3 hours you clear it - (184.101.108.44)<br />
:::Becuase there is a user created his sandbox and it was deleted his/her ip: 100.11.93.56. And look your talk. Because I left you a message. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7]] 08:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No. Create an account and earn auto-confirmed status if you want to have your own sandbox. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 10:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== What is the reason for you to delete my uploaded Whistler 2410 start page image? ==<br />
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You can just overwrite it, and why JPEGs is rejected?. My image is 1366x768, while the new one is 1024. [[User:Someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 03:33, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:JPEG uses lossy compression. The screenshot guidelines mandate the use of lossless formats. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 13:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Accidental upload ==<br />
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I accidentally uploaded [[:File:Printers b1.png|this image]] while trying to replace an existing file. Could it please be deleted? Thanks. <br />
-[[User:HawHoo|HawHoo]] ([[User talk:HawHoo|talk]]) 18:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Done. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 09:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Block this user ==<br />
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240E:351:B57A:DB00:9897:7F7E:8230:9575 is vandalizing Longhorn 4074 page. That user need to be blocked as soon as possible - [[User:Someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 13:57, 9 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No. Like i said wikipedia's undo limit, this ip user's edit only 1. Also the undo limit is 3 lol [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FC|2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FC]] 05:21, 15 July 2022 (UTC)</div>2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FChttps://betawiki.net/index.php?title=BetaWiki:Community_portal&diff=223635BetaWiki:Community portal2022-07-15T05:18:30Z<p>2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FC: /* Maybe 17713 (rs_prerelease) is october 2018 build? */ re</p>
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== GitHub References ==<br />
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While some builds that are mentioned on GitHub come from more than one repository and fall under the acceptable notability guidelines. I believe that the majority are not notable as they just say "Hey, this build exists!", only consist of a build number and don't mention any notable bugs or features. Not to mention that I feel that these build pages clog up their respective OS version pages. <br />
Given that most Win10/Win11 updates have recently been removed, I feel like these references should follow suit. Especially since right now, [[Copper]] is around 45% GitHub references.<br />
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I think there are three potential ways forward:<br />
# Delete and disallow most build references that come from GitHub (This would be extremely unfair)<br />
# Move the references to a separate page and potentially format them into a table as seen on my sandbox. [https://betawiki.net/wiki/User:Xeno/Sandbox#GH_.28Nickel.29 Table Sandbox] (The table is just a personal preference)<br />
# Keep things as is<br />
These are just some thoughts I've had over the last few days. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 21:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I think the second option you suggested is the most appropriate solution. It serves to mention that we know these builds exists without having a page for each of them. (I also think this idea can be extended to other "unnotable builds" as well, just a list to reference their existence). β’ [[User:Kiki79250CoC|Kiki79250CoC]] <sup>([[User talk:Kiki79250CoC|Talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Kiki79250CoC|Contribs]] β’ [[User:Kiki79250CoC/ToasterSpecs|My Toasterβ’ specs]])</sup> 06:15, 8 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to create pages! ==<br />
Please, let me create pages! --[[User:PrelevatedInsider|PrelevatedInsider]] ([[User talk:PrelevatedInsider|talk]]) 10:53, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Why? What pages do you want to create? [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 10:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
::My user page and every non-existent pages! --[[User:PrelevatedInsider|PrelevatedInsider]] ([[User talk:PrelevatedInsider|talk]]) 12:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== I want my custom Userpage and Sandbox! ==<br />
I want these to tell others about me and for testing BetaWiki features and my editing skills with condition that nobody will ever touch the page.<br />
--[[User:GoldieAxolotel1320|GoldieAxolotel1320]] ([[User talk:GoldieAxolotel1320|Talk]]) 14:40 Apr 10 2022 GMT+01:00 Warsaw<br />
:You're copying my message! --[[User:PrelevatedInsider|PrelevatedInsider]] ([[User talk:PrelevatedInsider|talk]]) 12:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
: I need this too! --[[User:GoldieAxolotel1320|GoldieAxolotel1320]] ([[User talk:GoldieAxolotel1320|Talk]]) 15:09 Apr 10 2022 GMT+01:00 Warsaw<br />
: Same. --[[User:Vannura|Vannura]] ([[User talk:Vannura|talk]]) 14:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Deprecate The Use of The Term "Development Semester" ==<br />
I don't think Nickel and Copper should be called the 22H1 and 22H2 development semesters, respectively, given that Microsoft has most likely switched to a yearly-based development cycle rather than semester-based with recent internal mentions of Windows 11's 23H2 release being Copper. Some may argue that the development semester is not related to the version number, but it would be very awkward as we get further and further into the future when development semester and the version number diverge (for example, Gallium would be either 23H2 or 25H2). Therefore, I think we should stop using the term "development semester" after Nickel. [[User:Charka123|Charka123]] ([[User talk:Charka123|talk]]) 00:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I honestly agree 100%. Imagine the mess in the near future once we reach 2024 or 2025! [[User:Cliria|Cliria]] ([[User talk:Cliria|talk]])<br />
:Well, they are called development semesters for a reason... The 22H2 development semester is for the 2023 release, aka 23H2. Same also applies for 22H1, being called 22H2 instead of 22H1. --[[User:Icanttellyou|Icanttellyou]] ([[User talk:Icanttellyou|talk]]) 09:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:We can't do much until Microsoft confirms that themselves. It's likely we'll just keep it the same until we have enough proof whether Microsoft did switch to development cycles from development semesters. [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 16:25, 13 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Purging [[Vibranium|Vibranium (Win10 2004 thru 21H2)]] and [[Windows 11 (original release)|Cobalt (Win11)]] update pages ==<br />
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To reduce clutter throughout each Windows version's build pages (from VB onwards), I'm holding a vote here to see if anyone's fine with getting rid of the unnecessary update pages for the above mentioned Windows versions, as they do not have any notable changes. The only pages that will be kept (as they feature significant UI changes) are the following:<br />
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==== Vibranium ====<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19041.329]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19041.423]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19041.962]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.608]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.844]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.962]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.1023]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19043.1023]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19044.1499]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19044.1618]]<br />
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==== Cobalt ====<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.282]]<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.466]]<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.526]]<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.588]]<br />
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Let me know what you think about these proposed changes below. - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 18:11, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Support ===<br />
# Agreed, we should only cover the ones with notable changes. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 18:12, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# I agree, there is no reason to have pages of builds that donβt contain anything important. [[User:WaterMelon|WaterMelon]] ([[User talk:WaterMelon|talk]]) 18:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Three's a trio. I'm in favor as there are a ton of unnoteworthy builds and removing some of the update builds is a great start. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 18:23, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# As the one who began the whole post-GA thing, I fully agree with this. [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 20:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Boa|Boa]] ([[User talk:Boa|talk]]) 20:51, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# I agree, many of the post-GA builds of Vibranium and Cobalt are nothing more but security updates and quality updates that fix bugs and security issues and they clog up the build lists for those pages. It only makes since to cover post-GA builds that have actual notable changes like the ones listed above. WindowsGuy2021, 3:59, 12 May 2022<br />
# I'm pretty sure I have proposed long time ago that any Update RTM builds wouldn't be allowed here (aside from service pack betas and build 6003). Many if not all of these pages deserve to go, otherwise it'd be cluttered with over thousands of pages of Update RTM builds. [[User:BF10|BF10]] ([[User talk:BF10|talk]]) 01:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 11:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Kendrenogen|Kendrenogen]] ([[User talk:Kendrenogen|talk]]) 16:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Purging of cumulative updates of betas (Only for Manganese and up) ==<br />
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I think we should purge all of the cumulative updates of betas in post-20H1 Dev Channel as they do not contain any useful content as well as notable changes.<br />
I meant all builds with these labs without notable changes:<br />
* '''rs_prerelease_flt'''<br />
* '''fe_release_svc_prod(1-3)'''<br />
* '''fe_release_svc_im'''<br />
* '''co_release_svc_prod(1-3)'''<br />
* '''co_release_svc_im'''<br />
* '''ni_release_svc_prod(1-2)'''<br />
This proposal excludes all builds from 22000.51 to 22000.184.<br />
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=== Oppose ===<br />
I think it wasn't. Look into this one.<br />
*<s>''rs_prerelease_flt (from 20H1)''<br />
** 18965.1005 (20H1): This build changes the version numbers for a few system components.<br />
** 18970.1005 (20H1): Nothing updates<br />
** 19551.1005 (Manganese): ''See [[Windows 10 build 19551.1005#Bugs and quirks]]''<br />
** 19564.1005 (Manganese): You must use an IDE or SATA hard drive if you want to install this build in [[VMware]], otherwise the setup won't be able to find the drive.<br />
** 19608.1006 (Manganese): Nothing updates<br />
** 19613.1005 (Manganese): Nothing updates<br />
** 20211.1005 (Iron): Error update of [[Windows 10 build 20211.1000|build 20211.1000]].<br />
** 20231.1005 (Iron): Nothing updates<br />
** 20236.1005 (Iron): Nothing updates<br />
** 20241.1005 (Iron): Nothing updates<br />
** 21292.1010 (Cobalt wave 1 Cilent): ''See [[Windows 10 build 21292.1000#Bugs]]''<br />
** 21292.1010 (Cobalt wave 1 Server): Only the update files of this build were released to Windows Update on 15 January 2021 alongside its client counterpart.<br />
** 21296.1010 (Cobalt wave 1): Nothing updates<br />
** 21301.1010 (Cobalt wave 1): Nothing updates. </s><br />
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And there some build like this lol. [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:9aa:460c:a255:8787|2001:f90:40c0:a072:9aa:460c:a255:8787]] 19:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
#I wouldn't say all. Take [[Windows 11 build 22581.100|22581.100]] for example. This "service pipeline" reintroduces tabbed [[File Explorer]]. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 11:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
: These can be excluded from this proposal. But rest of them doesn't seem that useful. {{Unsigned|94.121.83.99}}<br />
: I'll take 22621.160 as example. It introduced tabs and revamped navigation pane, But, its earlier CU, 22621.(2-4), and it's later CU, 22621.105, does nothing. [[User:Someone|Someone]], 10:01, 28 June 2022<br />
:: Then, 22621.160 is fine. But shouldn't 22621.(2-4) or at least 22621.105 be purged since there aren't any notable changes or features? {{Unsigned|94.123.156.175}}<br />
::: Then take 22621.1 as example. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:187A:BD42:911F:1CCA|2001:F90:40C0:A072:187A:BD42:911F:1CCA]] 03:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::: Base builds still need to be included. Just like 22000.1.[[User:Someone|Someone ]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 09:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Restore Windows 11 build 22000.346 page ==<br />
{{Cpd close}}<br><br />
Restored as requested. - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 14:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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I don't understand why the page for build 22000.346 was removed as a part of getting rid of post-GA update pages. It actually had some notable changes, including the redesigned fluent emojis and changes to the BSOD color. Some of the pages that had fewer changes were actually kept, such as 22000.282 (which only contained minor tweaks and adjustments) and 22000.526 (only added Microsoft Account page in Settings). Considering that these two post-GA updates were kept, I think 22000.346 should stay too. [[User:Charka123|Charka123]] ([[User talk:Charka123|talk]]) 20:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, at least unleaked post-GA updates should stay. {{Unsigned|94.121.83.99}}<br />
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== Move all the images ==<br />
I think every image only this '''example''' was best:<br />
*File:'''Windows10-6.4.9850-Metro'''.png<br />
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Use this example to move all images. Please everyone do it. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 06:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Why move these images? [[Special:Contributions/88.228.248.220|88.228.248.220]] 01:02, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Too much users created file by using this example. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7]] 05:47, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No, don't. There is no naming scheme for files and I don't see any point in introducing one. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 10:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Make a document about the 23H2 builds (archive) ==<br />
If [[Copper]] released a build then the [[Windows 11, version 23H2|23H2 page]] doesn't have that build. So, if make a document, it will be easier. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 06:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
: I agreed. It should have some builds. They can just avoid server builds and show client builds [[user:someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 10:09, 28 June 2022<br />
:: That was odd lol [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 11:03, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Move these pages. ==<br />
=== First move ===<br />
There are 2 windows 2000 builds it was not moved. This is the list of not moved Windows 2000 builds:<br />
*{{BLItem Confirmed|Windows 2000 build 1781.1|1781.1}}<br />
*{{BLItem Confirmed|Windows 2000 build 1794.1|1794.1}}<br />
[[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:5189:e019:ae56:b207|2001:f90:40c0:a072:5189:e019:ae56:b207]] 18:53, 12 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
:Could you also move [[Windows Live Messenger build 14.0.3921]] to [[Windows Live Messenger 2009 build 3921]]? The page already exists, but it is a redirect. - [[Special:Contributions/212.23.130.206|212.23.130.206]] <sup>([[User talk:212.23.130.206|talk]])</sup> 13:34, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::{{done}} --[[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 11:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
=== Second move ===<br />
Please, move this page.<br />
*{{BLItem Unconfirmed|Windows NT 4.0 build 1124.1|1124.1}}'''(ATTEMPT: Move this page to [[Windows NT 4.0 build 1124]]. In this attempt you must move before 08:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC).)''' [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:2193:ed23:ccfd:7a64|2001:f90:40c0:a072:2193:ed23:ccfd:7a64]] 16:53, 14 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
:And what would happen if we didn't? Seems dumb to set a deadline for a simple move [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 11:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::If didn't moved before that time, I will give last 5 days time for you. [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:f805:cd7:28b:ff74|2001:f90:40c0:a072:2193:ed23:ccfd:7a64]] 12:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
:::{{done|DONE.}} --[[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 01:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Third move ===<br />
There is 1 page and 2 files need to moved.<br />
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'''Pages (Only [[User:Xeno|Xeno]])'''<br />
#[[Microsoft Office XP build 2511 (RC)]] -> [[Microsoft Office XP build 2511]]<br />
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'''Files (Only [[User:HawHoo|HawHoo]])'''<br />
#[[:File:VirtualBox Windows 2000 20 12 2021 19 35 29.png]] -> [[:File:2511 WordAbout.png]]<br />
#[[:File:VirtualBox Windows 2000 20 12 2021 19 18 34.png]] -> [[:File:2202 WordAbout.png]] [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6CDB:CDDB:CC9E:D0CF|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6CDB:CDDB:CC9E:D0CF]] 04:48, 22 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:{{done|''Done''.}} [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 06:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Will Windows 10, version 22H2 come out? ==<br />
Now Windows has been released 19044.1806. But there is a the 19045.1806? Will Windows 10 Version 22H2 come out? [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:500D:1A9D:213C:68F7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:500D:1A9D:213C:68F7]] 04:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
: It has been confirmed, but the page for it isn't created yet. [[User:someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:someone|talk]]) 10:15 28 June 2022<br />
:: Those pages were created. [[User:Faynti|Faynti]] ([[User talk:Faynti|talk]]) 20:56 3 July 2022<br />
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== i386, IA-32, ia32 or x86? x64, x86-64, x86_64, AMD64 or amd64? ==<br />
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I do not know what to use. 16:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC) {{Unsigned|88.67.248.152}}<br />
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:x86 and x64. By the way, I'd suggest signing your comments with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 16:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:The general guideline is to call it however the OS calls it. There is no explicit standard on that (yet). --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 17:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::It was I386, x86, AMD64, x64, x86_64, ARM64, IA-64, 68k.[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:5061:2F54:E04D:CC34|2001:F90:40C0:A072:5061:2F54:E04D:CC34]] 23:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::So x86, IA-64 and x64 for Windows and i386, ia64 and amd64 for Linux? And, thanks for the tip, it was very hard to put in signs manually. [[Special:Contributions/88.67.248.152|88.67.248.152]] 15:44, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== ViVeTool 0.3+ related syntax ==<br />
<br />
Well, I forget to discuss this first before... May we can change the older <code>vivetool addconfig [velocity_id]</code> code (from version until 0.2) with <code>/enable /id:[velocity_id]</code> code (from version 0.3+)?<br />
I need to know, if we can keep it for compability reason or change it to better experience. πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 15:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I've also mentioned this on the Discord. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 15:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry but I currently not using Discord a while, until a few weeks. All the decision is under the admins for now. :) πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 15:30, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I would just mention the feature IDs itself and leave out the ViVeTool specific bits. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 11:57, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Agreed. That's nice idea. πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 20:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== It is 15 hours when 7985 was shared ==<br />
{{Cpd close}}<br />
Created [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD|2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD]] 01:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
----<br />
It was to be 15 hours when [[Windows 8 build 7985]] shared to BetaWiki discord. Why this page was not created? [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD|2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD]] 10:56, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Merge Service Pipeline updates with their respective build pages. ==<br />
<br />
Windows Insider Service Pipeline updates aren't notable enough to create a new page every time one is released. It'd be better if there was a note on the build's page and would reduce the need to upload a winver image for every pipeline. An example would be [[Windows 11 build 25151.1010|build 25151]] merged with [[Windows 11 build 25151.1000|build 25151.1000]] [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 18:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Support ===<br />
#[[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 18:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 20:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Agreed to this on Discord already. Most of these are irrelevant and the "changes" they contain only stem from feature configurations for different branches. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 13:39, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Other minor pre-release build updates don't have their own pages (except special cases like 8102 which was preinstalled), so these also shouldn't. [[Special:Contributions/89.241.109.169|89.241.109.169]] 13:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:HawHoo|HawHoo]] ([[User talk:HawHoo|talk]]) 18:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 03:43, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Oppose ===<br />
#I didn't agree to did this. Even some builds (From Cobalt) orof Windows 10 have changes bugs<br />
[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:E594:60B8:55A2:CDD7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:E594:60B8:55A2:CDD7]] 12:41, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#:What? --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 13:39, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#::21390.2025 did not. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:95C:7040:50FC:DCCB|2001:F90:40C0:A072:95C:7040:50FC:DCCB]] 07:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Maybe 17713 (rs_prerelease) is october 2018 build? ==<br />
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Just like: 18980.1000.rs_prerelease.190907-1312 is compiled after 18980.1.vb_release.190907-1301, not build of 1903? {{Unsigned|Faynti}}<br />
:No. The <code>rs_prerelease</code> is use for Dev Channels or Insider Previews; <code>xx_release</code> is for Later Insider previews and GA. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 07:47,13p July 2022 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Are those builds notable? ==<br />
<br />
They don't include nothing new. The enablement which installed, will update itself to the same version, if you installed a CU that compatible with [[Windows 10 May 2020 Update|19041]].<br />
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Deleting pages will affect: <br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19043.789|19043.789.vb_release_svc_prod3.210129-1243]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1023|19044.1023.vb_release_svc_prod3.210517-1726]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1052|19044.1052.vb_release_svc_prod1.210604-1652]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1055|19044.1055.vb_release_svc_im.210609-2133]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1081|19044.1081.vb_release_svc_prod3.210607-1924]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1082|19044.1082.vb_release_svc_prod3.210624-2043]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1083|19044.1083.vb_release_svc_prod3.210703-0820]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1110|19044.1110.vb_release_svc_prod1.210708-1509]]<br />
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Are you agree with me? if you agree, i will start the AFD. - [[User:Faynti|Faynti]] - 8:58 05-07-2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Support ===<br />
# Those update builds are not notable since those builds didn't include anything new, apart from the build number change. [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 09:11, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Faynti|Faynti]] ([[User talk:Faynti|talk]]) 09:27, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=== Oppose ===<br />
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== Mobile web fault error ==<br />
OS: iOS 10.3.4 (14G61)<br><br />
System: iPad 4<br><br />
Model: MD5113LL/A<br><br />
Bug: Can`t edit without vandlilsm abuse (Block), when i answer the question it says "Wrong code, try again." without wrong answers. i tried to use Google Chrome app (version 71.0.3578.89), Microsoft Edge (version 46.3.30), it also didnt work. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 02:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:It is not recommended to share your iPad's serial number with everyone. Remember, your iPad's serial number is your own and private info. [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 04:35, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought BetaWiki is not available aa a mobile app. Anyway, try to edit with the desktop version of this page. - [[Special:Contributions/2.204.222.238|2.204.222.238]] 07:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::That IP thought BetaWiki has a mobile app that can be used to read and edit pages, even though the IP is just visiting the mobile version of the site. BetaWiki does not have a mobile app! [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 08:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::This sentence (That IP thought BetaWiki has a mobile app that can be used to read and edit pages) was false. I didnt use a mobile app to edit pages. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 01:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::That sentence was true. I know you didn't use a mobile app, but it seems that you didn't read the sentence correctly. I said "BetaWiki has a mobile app" in the sentence, not "That IP is using a mobile app". Also, hiding your iPad's serial number from the reading view just doesn't make sense, because the serial number is still visible when editing the source of this page. [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 03:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:You're probably being ratelimited by the wiki. That's intended behavior. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 09:45, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Mobile web fault #2 ==<br />
OS: iOS 10.3.4 (14G61)<br><br />
System: iPad 4<br><br />
Model: MD5113LL/A<br><br />
Bug: "Sorry for the mess!" After JaGoTu upgraded MediaWiki version to 1.3.7, on the mobile web the Contributions page was broken. After this version released, this error is still on the mobile version of BetaWiki (Safari). I reported that before, it still have no message.[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 03:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)</div>2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FChttps://betawiki.net/index.php?title=BetaWiki:Community_portal&diff=223634BetaWiki:Community portal2022-07-15T05:18:05Z<p>2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FC: /* Maybe 17713 (rs_prerelease) is october 2018 build? */ ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssoooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy</p>
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== GitHub References ==<br />
<br />
While some builds that are mentioned on GitHub come from more than one repository and fall under the acceptable notability guidelines. I believe that the majority are not notable as they just say "Hey, this build exists!", only consist of a build number and don't mention any notable bugs or features. Not to mention that I feel that these build pages clog up their respective OS version pages. <br />
Given that most Win10/Win11 updates have recently been removed, I feel like these references should follow suit. Especially since right now, [[Copper]] is around 45% GitHub references.<br />
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I think there are three potential ways forward:<br />
# Delete and disallow most build references that come from GitHub (This would be extremely unfair)<br />
# Move the references to a separate page and potentially format them into a table as seen on my sandbox. [https://betawiki.net/wiki/User:Xeno/Sandbox#GH_.28Nickel.29 Table Sandbox] (The table is just a personal preference)<br />
# Keep things as is<br />
These are just some thoughts I've had over the last few days. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 21:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I think the second option you suggested is the most appropriate solution. It serves to mention that we know these builds exists without having a page for each of them. (I also think this idea can be extended to other "unnotable builds" as well, just a list to reference their existence). β’ [[User:Kiki79250CoC|Kiki79250CoC]] <sup>([[User talk:Kiki79250CoC|Talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Kiki79250CoC|Contribs]] β’ [[User:Kiki79250CoC/ToasterSpecs|My Toasterβ’ specs]])</sup> 06:15, 8 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to create pages! ==<br />
Please, let me create pages! --[[User:PrelevatedInsider|PrelevatedInsider]] ([[User talk:PrelevatedInsider|talk]]) 10:53, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Why? What pages do you want to create? [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 10:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
::My user page and every non-existent pages! --[[User:PrelevatedInsider|PrelevatedInsider]] ([[User talk:PrelevatedInsider|talk]]) 12:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== I want my custom Userpage and Sandbox! ==<br />
I want these to tell others about me and for testing BetaWiki features and my editing skills with condition that nobody will ever touch the page.<br />
--[[User:GoldieAxolotel1320|GoldieAxolotel1320]] ([[User talk:GoldieAxolotel1320|Talk]]) 14:40 Apr 10 2022 GMT+01:00 Warsaw<br />
:You're copying my message! --[[User:PrelevatedInsider|PrelevatedInsider]] ([[User talk:PrelevatedInsider|talk]]) 12:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
: I need this too! --[[User:GoldieAxolotel1320|GoldieAxolotel1320]] ([[User talk:GoldieAxolotel1320|Talk]]) 15:09 Apr 10 2022 GMT+01:00 Warsaw<br />
: Same. --[[User:Vannura|Vannura]] ([[User talk:Vannura|talk]]) 14:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Deprecate The Use of The Term "Development Semester" ==<br />
I don't think Nickel and Copper should be called the 22H1 and 22H2 development semesters, respectively, given that Microsoft has most likely switched to a yearly-based development cycle rather than semester-based with recent internal mentions of Windows 11's 23H2 release being Copper. Some may argue that the development semester is not related to the version number, but it would be very awkward as we get further and further into the future when development semester and the version number diverge (for example, Gallium would be either 23H2 or 25H2). Therefore, I think we should stop using the term "development semester" after Nickel. [[User:Charka123|Charka123]] ([[User talk:Charka123|talk]]) 00:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I honestly agree 100%. Imagine the mess in the near future once we reach 2024 or 2025! [[User:Cliria|Cliria]] ([[User talk:Cliria|talk]])<br />
:Well, they are called development semesters for a reason... The 22H2 development semester is for the 2023 release, aka 23H2. Same also applies for 22H1, being called 22H2 instead of 22H1. --[[User:Icanttellyou|Icanttellyou]] ([[User talk:Icanttellyou|talk]]) 09:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:We can't do much until Microsoft confirms that themselves. It's likely we'll just keep it the same until we have enough proof whether Microsoft did switch to development cycles from development semesters. [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 16:25, 13 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Purging [[Vibranium|Vibranium (Win10 2004 thru 21H2)]] and [[Windows 11 (original release)|Cobalt (Win11)]] update pages ==<br />
{{Cpd close}}<br />
To reduce clutter throughout each Windows version's build pages (from VB onwards), I'm holding a vote here to see if anyone's fine with getting rid of the unnecessary update pages for the above mentioned Windows versions, as they do not have any notable changes. The only pages that will be kept (as they feature significant UI changes) are the following:<br />
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==== Vibranium ====<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19041.329]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19041.423]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19041.962]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.608]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.844]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.962]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19042.1023]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19043.1023]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19044.1499]]<br />
*[[Windows 10 build 19044.1618]]<br />
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==== Cobalt ====<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.282]]<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.466]]<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.526]]<br />
*[[Windows 11 build 22000.588]]<br />
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Let me know what you think about these proposed changes below. - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 18:11, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Support ===<br />
# Agreed, we should only cover the ones with notable changes. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 18:12, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# I agree, there is no reason to have pages of builds that donβt contain anything important. [[User:WaterMelon|WaterMelon]] ([[User talk:WaterMelon|talk]]) 18:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Three's a trio. I'm in favor as there are a ton of unnoteworthy builds and removing some of the update builds is a great start. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 18:23, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# As the one who began the whole post-GA thing, I fully agree with this. [[User:Jurta|Jurta]] ([[User talk:Jurta|talk]] β’ [[Special:Contributions/Jurta|contribs]]) 20:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Boa|Boa]] ([[User talk:Boa|talk]]) 20:51, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# I agree, many of the post-GA builds of Vibranium and Cobalt are nothing more but security updates and quality updates that fix bugs and security issues and they clog up the build lists for those pages. It only makes since to cover post-GA builds that have actual notable changes like the ones listed above. WindowsGuy2021, 3:59, 12 May 2022<br />
# I'm pretty sure I have proposed long time ago that any Update RTM builds wouldn't be allowed here (aside from service pack betas and build 6003). Many if not all of these pages deserve to go, otherwise it'd be cluttered with over thousands of pages of Update RTM builds. [[User:BF10|BF10]] ([[User talk:BF10|talk]]) 01:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 11:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Kendrenogen|Kendrenogen]] ([[User talk:Kendrenogen|talk]]) 16:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Oppose ===<br />
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== Purging of cumulative updates of betas (Only for Manganese and up) ==<br />
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I think we should purge all of the cumulative updates of betas in post-20H1 Dev Channel as they do not contain any useful content as well as notable changes.<br />
I meant all builds with these labs without notable changes:<br />
* '''rs_prerelease_flt'''<br />
* '''fe_release_svc_prod(1-3)'''<br />
* '''fe_release_svc_im'''<br />
* '''co_release_svc_prod(1-3)'''<br />
* '''co_release_svc_im'''<br />
* '''ni_release_svc_prod(1-2)'''<br />
This proposal excludes all builds from 22000.51 to 22000.184.<br />
{{Unsigned|94.121.83.99}}<br />
=== Support ===<br />
=== Oppose ===<br />
I think it wasn't. Look into this one.<br />
*<s>''rs_prerelease_flt (from 20H1)''<br />
** 18965.1005 (20H1): This build changes the version numbers for a few system components.<br />
** 18970.1005 (20H1): Nothing updates<br />
** 19551.1005 (Manganese): ''See [[Windows 10 build 19551.1005#Bugs and quirks]]''<br />
** 19564.1005 (Manganese): You must use an IDE or SATA hard drive if you want to install this build in [[VMware]], otherwise the setup won't be able to find the drive.<br />
** 19608.1006 (Manganese): Nothing updates<br />
** 19613.1005 (Manganese): Nothing updates<br />
** 20211.1005 (Iron): Error update of [[Windows 10 build 20211.1000|build 20211.1000]].<br />
** 20231.1005 (Iron): Nothing updates<br />
** 20236.1005 (Iron): Nothing updates<br />
** 20241.1005 (Iron): Nothing updates<br />
** 21292.1010 (Cobalt wave 1 Cilent): ''See [[Windows 10 build 21292.1000#Bugs]]''<br />
** 21292.1010 (Cobalt wave 1 Server): Only the update files of this build were released to Windows Update on 15 January 2021 alongside its client counterpart.<br />
** 21296.1010 (Cobalt wave 1): Nothing updates<br />
** 21301.1010 (Cobalt wave 1): Nothing updates. </s><br />
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And there some build like this lol. [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:9aa:460c:a255:8787|2001:f90:40c0:a072:9aa:460c:a255:8787]] 19:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
#I wouldn't say all. Take [[Windows 11 build 22581.100|22581.100]] for example. This "service pipeline" reintroduces tabbed [[File Explorer]]. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 11:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
: These can be excluded from this proposal. But rest of them doesn't seem that useful. {{Unsigned|94.121.83.99}}<br />
: I'll take 22621.160 as example. It introduced tabs and revamped navigation pane, But, its earlier CU, 22621.(2-4), and it's later CU, 22621.105, does nothing. [[User:Someone|Someone]], 10:01, 28 June 2022<br />
:: Then, 22621.160 is fine. But shouldn't 22621.(2-4) or at least 22621.105 be purged since there aren't any notable changes or features? {{Unsigned|94.123.156.175}}<br />
::: Then take 22621.1 as example. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:187A:BD42:911F:1CCA|2001:F90:40C0:A072:187A:BD42:911F:1CCA]] 03:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::: Base builds still need to be included. Just like 22000.1.[[User:Someone|Someone ]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 09:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Restore Windows 11 build 22000.346 page ==<br />
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Restored as requested. - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 14:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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I don't understand why the page for build 22000.346 was removed as a part of getting rid of post-GA update pages. It actually had some notable changes, including the redesigned fluent emojis and changes to the BSOD color. Some of the pages that had fewer changes were actually kept, such as 22000.282 (which only contained minor tweaks and adjustments) and 22000.526 (only added Microsoft Account page in Settings). Considering that these two post-GA updates were kept, I think 22000.346 should stay too. [[User:Charka123|Charka123]] ([[User talk:Charka123|talk]]) 20:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, at least unleaked post-GA updates should stay. {{Unsigned|94.121.83.99}}<br />
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== Move all the images ==<br />
I think every image only this '''example''' was best:<br />
*File:'''Windows10-6.4.9850-Metro'''.png<br />
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Use this example to move all images. Please everyone do it. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 06:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Why move these images? [[Special:Contributions/88.228.248.220|88.228.248.220]] 01:02, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Too much users created file by using this example. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:10D6:7825:C69E:30F7]] 05:47, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No, don't. There is no naming scheme for files and I don't see any point in introducing one. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 10:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Make a document about the 23H2 builds (archive) ==<br />
If [[Copper]] released a build then the [[Windows 11, version 23H2|23H2 page]] doesn't have that build. So, if make a document, it will be easier. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 06:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
: I agreed. It should have some builds. They can just avoid server builds and show client builds [[user:someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:Someone|talk]]) 10:09, 28 June 2022<br />
:: That was odd lol [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6840:4743:E02B:B5F0]] 11:03, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Move these pages. ==<br />
=== First move ===<br />
There are 2 windows 2000 builds it was not moved. This is the list of not moved Windows 2000 builds:<br />
*{{BLItem Confirmed|Windows 2000 build 1781.1|1781.1}}<br />
*{{BLItem Confirmed|Windows 2000 build 1794.1|1794.1}}<br />
[[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:5189:e019:ae56:b207|2001:f90:40c0:a072:5189:e019:ae56:b207]] 18:53, 12 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
:Could you also move [[Windows Live Messenger build 14.0.3921]] to [[Windows Live Messenger 2009 build 3921]]? The page already exists, but it is a redirect. - [[Special:Contributions/212.23.130.206|212.23.130.206]] <sup>([[User talk:212.23.130.206|talk]])</sup> 13:34, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::{{done}} --[[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 11:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
=== Second move ===<br />
Please, move this page.<br />
*{{BLItem Unconfirmed|Windows NT 4.0 build 1124.1|1124.1}}'''(ATTEMPT: Move this page to [[Windows NT 4.0 build 1124]]. In this attempt you must move before 08:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC).)''' [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:2193:ed23:ccfd:7a64|2001:f90:40c0:a072:2193:ed23:ccfd:7a64]] 16:53, 14 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
:And what would happen if we didn't? Seems dumb to set a deadline for a simple move [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 11:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::If didn't moved before that time, I will give last 5 days time for you. [[Special:Contributions/2001:f90:40c0:a072:f805:cd7:28b:ff74|2001:f90:40c0:a072:2193:ed23:ccfd:7a64]] 12:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC+08:00)<br />
:::{{done|DONE.}} --[[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 01:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Third move ===<br />
There is 1 page and 2 files need to moved.<br />
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'''Pages (Only [[User:Xeno|Xeno]])'''<br />
#[[Microsoft Office XP build 2511 (RC)]] -> [[Microsoft Office XP build 2511]]<br />
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'''Files (Only [[User:HawHoo|HawHoo]])'''<br />
#[[:File:VirtualBox Windows 2000 20 12 2021 19 35 29.png]] -> [[:File:2511 WordAbout.png]]<br />
#[[:File:VirtualBox Windows 2000 20 12 2021 19 18 34.png]] -> [[:File:2202 WordAbout.png]] [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:6CDB:CDDB:CC9E:D0CF|2001:F90:40C0:A072:6CDB:CDDB:CC9E:D0CF]] 04:48, 22 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:{{done|''Done''.}} [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 06:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Will Windows 10, version 22H2 come out? ==<br />
Now Windows has been released 19044.1806. But there is a the 19045.1806? Will Windows 10 Version 22H2 come out? [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:500D:1A9D:213C:68F7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:500D:1A9D:213C:68F7]] 04:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
: It has been confirmed, but the page for it isn't created yet. [[User:someone|Someone]] ([[User talk:someone|talk]]) 10:15 28 June 2022<br />
:: Those pages were created. [[User:Faynti|Faynti]] ([[User talk:Faynti|talk]]) 20:56 3 July 2022<br />
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== i386, IA-32, ia32 or x86? x64, x86-64, x86_64, AMD64 or amd64? ==<br />
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I do not know what to use. 16:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC) {{Unsigned|88.67.248.152}}<br />
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:x86 and x64. By the way, I'd suggest signing your comments with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. - [[User:Pivotman319|pivotman319]] ([[User_talk:Pivotman319|π«]]) 16:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:The general guideline is to call it however the OS calls it. There is no explicit standard on that (yet). --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 17:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::It was I386, x86, AMD64, x64, x86_64, ARM64, IA-64, 68k.[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:5061:2F54:E04D:CC34|2001:F90:40C0:A072:5061:2F54:E04D:CC34]] 23:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::So x86, IA-64 and x64 for Windows and i386, ia64 and amd64 for Linux? And, thanks for the tip, it was very hard to put in signs manually. [[Special:Contributions/88.67.248.152|88.67.248.152]] 15:44, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== ViVeTool 0.3+ related syntax ==<br />
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Well, I forget to discuss this first before... May we can change the older <code>vivetool addconfig [velocity_id]</code> code (from version until 0.2) with <code>/enable /id:[velocity_id]</code> code (from version 0.3+)?<br />
I need to know, if we can keep it for compability reason or change it to better experience. πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 15:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I've also mentioned this on the Discord. [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 15:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry but I currently not using Discord a while, until a few weeks. All the decision is under the admins for now. :) πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 15:30, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I would just mention the feature IDs itself and leave out the ViVeTool specific bits. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 11:57, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Agreed. That's nice idea. πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 20:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== It is 15 hours when 7985 was shared ==<br />
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Created [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD|2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD]] 01:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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It was to be 15 hours when [[Windows 8 build 7985]] shared to BetaWiki discord. Why this page was not created? [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD|2001:F90:40C0:A072:A459:8FCB:27F:AEBD]] 10:56, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Merge Service Pipeline updates with their respective build pages. ==<br />
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Windows Insider Service Pipeline updates aren't notable enough to create a new page every time one is released. It'd be better if there was a note on the build's page and would reduce the need to upload a winver image for every pipeline. An example would be [[Windows 11 build 25151.1010|build 25151]] merged with [[Windows 11 build 25151.1000|build 25151.1000]] [[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 18:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Support ===<br />
#[[User:Xeno|Xeno]] ([[User talk:Xeno|talk]]) 18:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#πΈ Hi. I'm [[User:NekoSam395|NekoSam395.]] ([[User talk:NekoSam395|π¬]] | [[Special:Contributions/NekoSam395|π¨βπ»]]) 20:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Agreed to this on Discord already. Most of these are irrelevant and the "changes" they contain only stem from feature configurations for different branches. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 13:39, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Other minor pre-release build updates don't have their own pages (except special cases like 8102 which was preinstalled), so these also shouldn't. [[Special:Contributions/89.241.109.169|89.241.109.169]] 13:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:HawHoo|HawHoo]] ([[User talk:HawHoo|talk]]) 18:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 03:43, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Oppose ===<br />
#I didn't agree to did this. Even some builds (From Cobalt) orof Windows 10 have changes bugs<br />
[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:E594:60B8:55A2:CDD7|2001:F90:40C0:A072:E594:60B8:55A2:CDD7]] 12:41, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#:What? --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 13:39, 2 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#::21390.2025 did not. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:95C:7040:50FC:DCCB|2001:F90:40C0:A072:95C:7040:50FC:DCCB]] 07:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Maybe 17713 (rs_prerelease) is october 2018 build? ==<br />
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Just like: 18980.1000.rs_prerelease.190907-1312 is compiled after 18980.1.vb_release.190907-1301, not build of 1903? {{Unsigned|Faynti}}<br />
:No. The <code>rs_prerelease</code> is use for Dev Channels or Insider Previews; <code>xx_release</code> is for Later Insider previews and GA. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 07:47,13ΓΓ‘ΓΓ ppppppppppppp July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Are those builds notable? ==<br />
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They don't include nothing new. The enablement which installed, will update itself to the same version, if you installed a CU that compatible with [[Windows 10 May 2020 Update|19041]].<br />
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Deleting pages will affect: <br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19043.789|19043.789.vb_release_svc_prod3.210129-1243]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1023|19044.1023.vb_release_svc_prod3.210517-1726]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1052|19044.1052.vb_release_svc_prod1.210604-1652]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1055|19044.1055.vb_release_svc_im.210609-2133]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1081|19044.1081.vb_release_svc_prod3.210607-1924]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1082|19044.1082.vb_release_svc_prod3.210624-2043]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1083|19044.1083.vb_release_svc_prod3.210703-0820]]<br />
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[[Windows 10 build 19044.1110|19044.1110.vb_release_svc_prod1.210708-1509]]<br />
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Are you agree with me? if you agree, i will start the AFD. - [[User:Faynti|Faynti]] - 8:58 05-07-2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Support ===<br />
# Those update builds are not notable since those builds didn't include anything new, apart from the build number change. [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 09:11, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
# [[User:Faynti|Faynti]] ([[User talk:Faynti|talk]]) 09:27, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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=== Oppose ===<br />
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== Mobile web fault error ==<br />
OS: iOS 10.3.4 (14G61)<br><br />
System: iPad 4<br><br />
Model: MD5113LL/A<br><br />
Bug: Can`t edit without vandlilsm abuse (Block), when i answer the question it says "Wrong code, try again." without wrong answers. i tried to use Google Chrome app (version 71.0.3578.89), Microsoft Edge (version 46.3.30), it also didnt work. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 02:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:It is not recommended to share your iPad's serial number with everyone. Remember, your iPad's serial number is your own and private info. [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 04:35, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought BetaWiki is not available aa a mobile app. Anyway, try to edit with the desktop version of this page. - [[Special:Contributions/2.204.222.238|2.204.222.238]] 07:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::That IP thought BetaWiki has a mobile app that can be used to read and edit pages, even though the IP is just visiting the mobile version of the site. BetaWiki does not have a mobile app! [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 08:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::This sentence (That IP thought BetaWiki has a mobile app that can be used to read and edit pages) was false. I didnt use a mobile app to edit pages. [[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 01:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::That sentence was true. I know you didn't use a mobile app, but it seems that you didn't read the sentence correctly. I said "BetaWiki has a mobile app" in the sentence, not "That IP is using a mobile app". Also, hiding your iPad's serial number from the reading view just doesn't make sense, because the serial number is still visible when editing the source of this page. [[User:Nara Insider|Nara Insider]] ([[User talk:Nara Insider|talk]]) 03:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:You're probably being ratelimited by the wiki. That's intended behavior. --{{User:Ryuzaki/Signature}} 09:45, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Mobile web fault #2 ==<br />
OS: iOS 10.3.4 (14G61)<br><br />
System: iPad 4<br><br />
Model: MD5113LL/A<br><br />
Bug: "Sorry for the mess!" After JaGoTu upgraded MediaWiki version to 1.3.7, on the mobile web the Contributions page was broken. After this version released, this error is still on the mobile version of BetaWiki (Safari). I reported that before, it still have no message.[[Special:Contributions/2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9|2001:F90:40C0:A072:958A:2177:A4A8:83B9]] 03:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)</div>2001:F90:40C0:A072:7877:2587:CD8C:A6FC